the cartoon last week was the one -- lucy and charlie brown. we did the same thing in the last debt ceiling agreement. i agree we should. that is something we will be pushing to do. in the context of this debate and of what i hope will be a debt ceiling the date that takes place february and march next year. >> let me follow up on that question. it is one thing to stand up to the president on this problem will look at the data, we know that government spending as a percentage of gdp has risen under republican majorities more than under democratic majorities. how can we deal with that little better? >> one is to provide a vision for where we have to go. we have done this the last three years. we put on an alternative budget. putting on a budget that shows a path to balance. we think that helps make the budget that -- that makes it better. we show that. i think that's part of the vision. how this will help your family, your community if we get the balance. but that means for opportunity for growth. >> i came here in 2008. one of the things that f